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Offline Little Scotty

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HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« on: February 04, 2009, 12:12:23 AM »
HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
THE MORE I READ ABOUT THIS I COULD BITE NAILS!!! :banghead:
JUST AS I FIND A HOBBY I TRUELY LOVE BIG BROTHER {or sister} STICKS IT'S 2CENTS IN.
THEY {the government} TRYED TO DO THE SAME THING WHEN I WAS DOING TAEKWONDO,
THEY VOTED TO PUT A TAX ON IT AS ENTERTAINMENT. "THE PEN IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE SWORD"
WE MUST BAN TOGETHER - I'D LIKE HERE WHAT YOU ALL THINK... :thankyou: :help:

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Re: HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 08:21:32 AM »
I do have a letter that NCARK sent out to members, if anyone would like to read it, please message me with your email and I will send to  you ;)
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Re: HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 11:37:46 PM »
yes, i got it  - thanks -
trying to get my coworkers to sign the petition too
 {even though they hate my snakes, they think I {we} have the right to have them}

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Re: HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 05:23:52 AM »
I've been spreading the message along with website links since I heard about the revived bill. I'm urging everyone to go to http://www.house.gov/ and write their representative, telling them how it would affect their lives if this bill was passed and why they want their rep to vote no on it. I'm also writing up a petetion that can be printed and emailing it to anyone whose intrested in getting signatures on paper and then sending them in via snailmail. Online petetions are not recognized as valid by the house, so we still need to use paper ones. I'm also making a video for youtube about this legislation and will post links to it as soon as it's finished. If you'd like to collect signatures, you can email me at dragon_in_the_pines@live.com so I can email you petetion paperwork as soon as it's written up. Let me know!

Jenn.

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Re: HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 03:19:56 PM »
Our regolamentation (here in Italy) is so different ...
...that I often can't quite understand what You talk about !)

Anyways... some mandatory fees are so sick ...
... as well as who proposes them to the costumers/end users !!!!
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WOW...I began to appreciate that"reputation-status"since it became 53786 (June the 22nd  2009) lmfSao
NEW RECORD !!!
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Re: HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2009, 07:13:20 PM »
This is my letter to Congress concerning H.R. 669. I sent it to several representatives in my state, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, even though I don't live in their districts (Yes, I sent it to my rep as well!). I'm posting it publicly so you guys can use it as a template for your own, but please try to put your letter in your own words. For every member of congress to get the same letter sent by hundreds of different people looks bad, to say the least, and looks like you're not really concerned about how the issue would affect you personally.

When writing your letter, be cordial and professional. it's okay to be emotional, but try not to sound angry or too over-the-top. Be sure to include your full name, address, email address and phone number or your letter won't be considered valid. And please use spell check! State as many facts as you can about the issue and keep your letter to two pages or shorter (Mine's long but that's because I have a lot to say, lol). Reps don't like trying to wade through long letters or emails. Also, post sources in your letter if you've been able to research the topic.

 My letter is as follows:

February 20th, 2009 3:02 PM

Dear Congressman Dreier,

I am writing this letter as a plea, asking that you vote against the bill H.R. 669 "To prevent the introduction and establishment of nonnative wildlife species that negatively impact the economy, environment, or other animal species' or human health, and for other purposes." This bill is based on a non-scientifically-based report and would do nothing to prevent or erradicate invasive species as it suggests. Instead, it will further weaken an already unstable economy by effectively shutting down an entire industry. There are many people who captive-breed the species listed in H.R. 669, who own taxable buisnesses and pay said taxes. These animals are their livelyhood, and, were this bill to pass, they not only would be forced to keep animals that could no longer be sold legally, they would be forced to seek government assistance because of the extreme hardship put upon them by losing their sole source of income, having a surplus of mouths to feed and not being able to find a job in a job-deficient economy. Therefore, there would be more strain placed on an already over burdened welfare system as a result, which could lead our nation into the next Great Deppression.

 Of the animals listed in the bill, I'm going to narrow the scope to one group: reptiles. This is the type of animal I personally keep, so I can speak more factually about them. Aside from Florida and adjacent areas of the Gulf Coast, the animals in queston cannot survive unattended in the 48 states. The climate is wrong. A tropical or sub-tropical reptile would die in a matter of days or weeks in climates such as those experienced in, for example, Arizona or Maine. They simply cannot survive in conditions that are not optimal, i.e. identical or near-identical to those in their countries of origin. Therefore, they could not live long enough to establish and procreate, and could not become invasive.

Furthermore, reptiles carry very little communicable-to-humans diseases or bacteria. The one bacterium they're most commonly associated with is salmonella, and a person is ten times more likely to contract salmonella from a pet dog than a pet reptile. There's a CDC report on it. (1) A far more reasonable approach would be to let the individual states handle it as per their ecosystem and to enforce already existing laws. There should be stricter state-by-state regulation of the sale of the five truly giant snakes; Python molurus (Burmese python), P. reticulatus (Reticulated python), P. m. molurus (Indian rock python), P. sebae (Central African rock python) and Eunectes murinus (Green anaconda).These five types of snakes are the only ones that get to a size that can injure a person over the age of 13 or so; no other snake species get this large.(2) The regulation should be such as akin to that used to regulate big cats; paperwork, microchipping and hefty fines and/or jail time if a snake is released by the owner. Not just everyone should have access to large constrictors it's true, but responsible people should not be banned from keeping them, either. There should be legislation in place calling for more thorough sales records kept between breeder and buyer or petshop and buyer so these animals can be better regulated. That would help more than H.R. 669 ever would. The process alone would weed out many people who would be unable or unwilling to keep and care for these animals once they reached adult size.

There should also be a better support system for owners of exotics that must relinquish them for any reason. The animal shelters and organizations that are in place now (such as HSUS and ASPCA-based shelters) do not have the capabillity or know-how to deal with exotics and most that fall into their care end up euthanized, instead of rehomed to caring people experienced in their husbandry. It should be easier for knowledgeable private individuals with the means to start non-profit exotic shelters and sanctuaries and publicize them; under current regulations it's near-impossible for a layperson to start one. The institiution of more exotic shelters and sanctuaries would also mean less dumping of these animals, which would serve to keep these animals off the 'injurious' list, as they would have someplace to go besides a storm gutter, a park, etc. So I'd like to propose the idea for a more layperson-friendly system for starting a non-profit animal rescue organization.

Also, since there are still relatively few established individual non-native reptiles and most are in the Gulf, I'd like to propose that they could be removed by a skilled group of volunteers who would go and catch these animals humanely and place them in experienced, permanent homes. I myself am willing to be a volunteer for this, and I know many other people who would step up to this task. I hope it will be a consideration as a solution. Another issue that must be addressed is public education about these animals. There is so much misinformation and downright false information floating around about not only reptiles in general, but about our own native reptiles, and much of it instills unnecessary fear in people about these animals and ultimately leads to unnecessary deaths of the unfortunate animals they happen across. Our schools teach very little about our native wildlife, and it is a travesty. I would be willing to be a volunteer to help set up a better educational program about reptiles, exotics and our indigenous wildlife, which is something very lacking and sorely needed in our schools.

In addition, the focus should be shifted to already established injurious species, such as Felis catus (domestic cats), which, when feral, is the most injurious non-native species on the planet. And yet, they are exempt from H.R. 669. Cats are the only known species of animal to kill for sport, even if they are domesticated and well cared for, whereas large constrictors kill prey once every one to two months as a means of survival. In addition, cats become feral quickly and reproduce almost as quickly. More emphasis should be put on the spay/neuter programs for feral cat colonies and on punishment for owners who illegally dump their cats, as well as stricter enforcement of spay/neuter and microchipping laws. This would greatly reduce this injurious species' impact on enviroment and economy by proactive measures to ensure feral cats do not breed and more domestic cats do not get intergrated into those populations.

In conclusion, I'd like to sincerely thank you for your time in reading my letter and considering my proposals and the reptile- and exotic-pet community's position on this bill, which would be far more injurious to our economy and way of life if passed than any non-native 'invasive' species could ever be. Thank you very much for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Jennifer D. Bellew
Reptile Rescuer, Breeder and Herpetologist-In-Training
P.O. box 820 Wrightwood, CA 92397
714-287-0694
dragon_in_the_pines@live.com

NOTES: (1) Link to CDC studies: http://www.rexano.org/SafetyFrame.htm http://www.rexano.org/CDC_SalmonellaFrame.htm (2) "Burmese Pythons Plus Reticulated Pythons and Related Species" By Phillippe de Vosjoli with Roger Kingenberg, DVM. Part of "The Herpetological Library", published by Advanced Vivarium Systems. Copyright 2005, Advanced Vivarium Systems, Inc.
 

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Re: HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2009, 07:15:25 PM »
And here's how to find your representative: http://www.house.gov/house/MemStateSearch.shtml

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Re: HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2009, 02:00:54 AM »
very good letter........do you know of any other political troublemakers besides Nelson?

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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 10:45:39 AM »
On April 23, 2009 a The National Resources Committee of the U.S. Congress will hold a hearing on a resolution called the Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act (H.R. 669).  If you have not contacted your Congressman, now is the time!!

http://www.scserp.com/SCS_Legislation_Federal_H.R.%20669.htm

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Re: HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 08:13:49 AM »
We just got this letter from USARK.  It tells you exactly what has to be done to fight HR669.  Don't think we are going to get enough other people that your letters don't matter, each and every letter matters.   :sign9:  Time is running out!  If you are not a member of USARK I encourage you to join.


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Urgent Letter to the Reptile Nation / HR669
Reptile Nation,
I know that we are facing dangerous and confusing times for the Reptile Community. Our end is upon us if we don't take decisive action to save ourselves. We have the power to decide our own future if we will only wake up and do what needs to be done!!
Thank you to those of you who have taken it upon yourself to take action. I know it has been frustrating. Congress is not set up to be reached by email. We have experienced broken links, constituent filters, blocks and deletions. But our opponents at HSUS lobbying for the bill have faced the same setbacks; although they have shown up in much larger numbers. As for the groups opposing the bill, USARK has generated the most contacts according to congressional staffers. But we must do much better or we will fail.

I just returned from a trip to Capitol Hill. Our lobbyist Tom Wolfe set up meetings with both sides of the Congressional Subcommittee considering HR669. We also did drop in visits to subcommittee member offices to make our case. Support was split down party lines. The Republicans support us and the Democrats oppose us. The Democrat side can win with a straight party line vote. The good news is that since meeting with USARK the Ranking Republican Rep Harry Brown, SC contacted me and has made this bill a priority. He has given us precise instructions on how to most effectively contact the subcommittee.
The Reptile Community must wake up or all will be lost. This is a huge mailing list. Yet only a few are taking action to contact the subcommittee. If everyone on this list did their part we would avalanche the subcommittee and make our point. We could kill HR669. We need to get off our lazy asses and start writing and calling the subcommittee members. The Hearing is on the 23rd of this month. That is all the time we have to save ourselves from being completely destroyed... and make no mistake, if HR669 passes the Reptile Community will be decimated overnight.

Rep Brown's office suggests we focus on direct contact with subcommittee members. That means written letters followed up by phone calls. They are telling us that email and fax are the least effective way to contact members... they get lost and deleted. We need to call and write. They are also saying to send the letters directly to our lobbyist and have him deliver them in mass to the subcommittee members. If you are focusing on other activities STOP until after you complete this important task. Start calling and writing. The Key is IN MASS!!! It has greater impact that way. The time is now to fight for your life. We must convince several Democrats to oppose HR669 to prevail.

This is what we need to do:

1.   Write a letter to each member of the subcommittee. Click this link http://www.usark.org/uploads/hr669sample.pdf for the sample letter from our archive and names and phone numbers for committee members.

2.   Label each envelope w/ the committee members name and your name and return address.

3.   Put all these letters in a large manila envelope and send to: Tom Wolfe, 6246 Lee Hwy, Arlington, VA 22205

4.   Call each member of the subcommittee- you will be speaking with staff. Let them know you Oppose HR669. Be civil, but tell them how this will effect you and your family.

5.   Check where members are from. If any of the members are your district representatives, or are from your state, make sure they know you are their constituent.


If we are not annihilated by HR669 be prepared to do this over and over again. From now on political action will be needed regularly to maintain our rights. If you have not joined USARK please click the link on the bottom of the page and protect your rights. Please post this letter on every forum and social networking site you can think of.

Sincerely,
Andrew Wyatt                                                             
President USARK