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Burmese study in SC
« on: December 20, 2009, 09:47:42 AM »
http://www.aikenstandard.com/Local/0619SnakePit

Like college freshman being dropped off at orientation, the Burmese pythons released into a snake-proof enclosure at Savannah River Ecology Laboratory Thursday seemed wary of their new surroundings. The snakes are part of a study at the Savannah River Site that's testing the contention that pythons are capable of surviving in climates similar to their natural habitat, which includes much of the Southeast U.S.

Of the seven snakes released into the enclosure, many were reluctant to leave their traveling bins and remained coiled when ushered out. Although some snakes assumed a defensive position, the inactivity isn't unusual for Burmese pythons.

"These guys tend to sit around until something comes by to eat," said Michael E. Dorcas, the Davidson College associate professor of biology who's leading the study in conjunction with SREL researchers.

The study has come about because Burmese pythons, kept as pets for decades, have been introduced into a new habitat. The snakes - which can grow longer than 20 feet, live for 15-25 years and are native to Southeast Asia - were either released or escaped into the Florida Everglades where they are wreaking havoc in the foreign ecosystem.

"There are certainly thousands of them in the Everglades," said John D. Willson, of SREL, who is one of many technicians involved with the study working primarily as a volunteer. "They camouflage so well, we can't really determine how many there are."

There is concern over what the pythons would do if there were a mass migration north.

The year-long study, which is being filmed by National Geographic and will air early in 2010 on the National Geographic channel, will examine the ability of invasive Burmese pythons to survive in a semi-natural enclosure at a different temperature than the Everglades. The study will specifically monitor the survivorship, body condition, weight, behavior and thermal biology of the pythons.

"It's not going to be definitive but it will provide insight to determine if the climate models are accurate," Dorcas said of the study, which is being funded in a joint effort by SREL, Davidson, the University of Florida and the U.S. Geological Survey. "The information will be important in determining what course of action can be taken so they can't be established in South Carolina."

The snakes will be checked daily to ensure they are in the enclosure. It's for this reason that, when the first snake was released, someone cautiously cheered, "Be free ... Within the enclosure."

In the unlikely chance any python escapes, it can be tracked by tracing a radio transmitter that was surgically implanted into each snake Wednesday. The pythons are also identifiable by an ID tag that was also implanted during surgery and an ID number scrawled on it. Additionally, the technicians can identify the pythons by their distinctive patterns.

Aiken is an ideal location for the study since it fits the climate model in question. SRS is a logical site to conduct the study since it's the home of SREL, which already had a snake-proof enclosure.

"It provides opportunities found nowhere else in the world," said Dorcas.

Contact Noah Feit at nfeit@aikenstandard.com.
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Re: Burmese study in SC
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 10:49:31 AM »
Great Topic Tara And Great Read!!!
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Re: Burmese study in SC
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2009, 11:00:52 AM »
ya know i rember when they did that an my firts thought was "omg their freakin stupid" honestly -_-.

I dont think a year is enought ime to realy gather any REAL information. I mean look how fickel the weather is here in the south? Hell here in georgia  some winters you can be burning up an dyin to go swimming an others its colder then a well diggers ass.


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Re: Burmese study in SC
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2009, 11:17:38 AM »
Thanks Carla, I found it posted on http://www.crram.org and decided to post here also.  I've seen it before but haven't heard any news about it since then. 

Yes, I agree Celeste.  Even here in NC, the weather is so wishy-washy, they really need to do more than a year's study.
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Re: Burmese study in SC
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2010, 11:22:28 PM »
Personally, I feel bad for the pythons.  Even if they manage to survive for a year, I doubt they will be in very good shape.  Also, the study wouldn't seem to take other habitat factors into account, like prey availability (because they will have to be fed in an enclosure), mating and offspring viability, predation, or proximity to man.

The problem with doing things like this is either way you look at it, it can be twisted to say what you want it too.  If they die, then it's harder, but it could just be a fluke, high parasite load, stress from the move, blah, blah blah.  If they live, it doesn't really tell you anything except that the temps and humidity weren't extreme enough that year to kill them. And, if they do, it could be blamed on "record" highs or lows.  I'm all for good experimental science.  But the design of the experiment must be sound and comprehensive to isolate good data.  Allow too many variables, and you are just wasting time and money, not to mention putting the snakes through what could be a meaningless and painful death.
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Re: Burmese study in SC
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 01:14:29 PM »
I agree. this whole thing is stupid on there part. Putting the snakes through the weather changes like that just to see if they can survive is wrong. It isnt right to make an animal suffer when we know good and well what the climate has to be for these guys to survive. This is like taking a hairless dog and throwing it into the wild of canada and see if it survives a year outside. It is just stupid and uncalled for.

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Re: Burmese study in SC
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2010, 01:42:59 PM »
Cruel?  Absolutely! 

Necessary to convince people who believe all the USGS hype that large constrictors can survive in Death Valley, CA and Hackensack, NJ?  Regrettably so.

Thank the media hysteria for having to do this "experiment".
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