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What the hell is that?
« on: September 28, 2009, 06:01:19 PM »
So I'm cleaning cages, fine and dandy, just as usual.
I get to Sage, my Hogg Island boa and she's released some nice white urates, so I get her ready for a bath. I fed everybody 3 days ago, and I notice when I fully open the cage to remove her she has a slightly larger lump in one part of her stomach. Well I just assume the rat is sideways or something and pick her up anyway. I give her a bath like normal, pick her up with the towel, like normal and begin to dry her off, like normal. When I get to where the lump in her stomach was, not normal, she "burps" up this DISGUSTING smelling orangeish reddish liquid. I am not a weak stomached person, I have a 2 year old with digestive problems. I almost hurled. I had to do a double take to make sure it didn't come out of the other end.
So my mind starts racing, I put her in the tub again, clean up the floor and rinse her some more, she burps up that nasty crap like 3 more times, and the bubble that was abnormal in her stomach is gone. Well I pop her mouth open and sure as shit, her respiratory infection has flared up (she had a horrible one when we got her, from a "reputable" breeder no less) So I clean out her mouth and call in the antibiotic shots with my aunt.
Now I didn't get a chance to talk to my aunt (who is my fill in reptile vet) so that nasty smelling liquid is still a mystery.
Let me tell you what I do know we can rule out as a possibility:
I feed f/t so it couldn't have been internal rat injuries.
My feeders are less than a week old, I picked them up last week, so they are not old.
They were frozen solid when I got them home and when I thawed them.
They didn't smell bad and no one else (knock on wood) is showing these things.
The rat was not too big for her.
She was fine before this afternoon.
She is also going into shed cycle.

When she spit the crap up she was.. at the thresh hold for what I would consider Emergency Vet Visit material  (i.e. she stopped sticking her tongue out all the way, she was not resisting too much for me popping her mouth open, she was puffing up her throat.) But once she stopped, she was fine, like it never happened, except that she is still puffing her throat, but she is sticking her tongue all the way out and even chasing me out of her cage like always. I moved her to a quarantine rack and I'm checking on her every half hour until my aunt returns my call. It's like it never happened to her. I checked on every one else to look for 'bubbles" and every one else seems to be progressing just fine.
I guess I just want to see if anyone else has ever experienced this. Or what your opinions are on the fact that maybe she just got a bad rat? Or that it is relative to the R.I. Her and our burm are the only ones who ever had R.I.'s and is was over 6 years ago and cleared up without problem. Hers was here when we got her and has come and gone since.
The liquid litterally reminded me of, and don't ask me how I know this, the liquid that pours from people's orifices when they are decaying and gases are building up inside of them. It smelled horribly like throw up too.  :vomit:
I'm worried if it is a bad rat, trying to operate, as I've been informed constrictors don't respond well to anesthesia, and she's a smaller girl, being a Hogg island, but healthy sized and weight.
What are every one's thoughts?
I appreciate it.  :sign9:


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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2009, 06:29:05 PM »
Wow that is weird for sure!
I've dealt with only one RI in the past and it was two years ago. I can't say that my Rosy Boa had any sort of lump or anything of the sort like that but he was puffing up his throat. He recovered without a problem.
I honestly don't know what that could have been that she was throwing up. It could have been some weird acids or something maybe from the rat? You could have had a bad rat and she reacted to it by doing that?
That is honestly weird and I have never heard of anything like that! Keep us posted if you find out anything
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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 06:34:17 PM »
Wow!  :sick: I've never heard of that either...but I'm still a newb lol...some of our snakes fart from time to time but never anything like that!!  Maybe a more experienced keeper will be able to help you out...hope your aunt calls soon!!
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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 06:54:34 PM »
Yeah, it was definetly up there on my wierd-o-meter. Not to mention it was repulsively smelly, I still have that smell in my nose. I'm not sure I which I would prefer it be related to, either way it can't be good.
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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 11:21:44 PM »
That is seriously bad sounding, but I'd say if she's acting fine, minus the RI infection side effects, just to wait until your aunt calls.  Not really sure what it is/was, but would like to hear back about this with what's going on.

Hope it's not too serious though ;)
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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 10:38:04 AM »
Well my aunt called last night, she said that is really weird, snakes don't usually "throw up".
She said I should take her to the physical vet, to do an x-ray, she thinks she either has something like "snake indigestion" or possibly on the more serious side, a rupture in her intestines.
She said to wait a few days until she sheds and see how she is doing, if anything strange happens in the mean time to take her immediately. Otherwise I will be making an appointment in a few days. She acts like nothing happened! She's acting completely normal, chasing me out of her cage, hissing at me, no "bubbles" in her mouth or her stomach. It was very strange to say the least and I hope to find out exactly what it was in a few days here.
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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 11:08:41 AM »
Well that's good to hear that she's back to acting normal.  Hope it all turns out good for you :)
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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 06:10:31 PM »
 :goodluck: in the meantime!!!
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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 01:20:13 AM »
I was thinking something intestinal as well. But I am also thinking that maybe the rat was bad and it was some form of food poisoning.

I hope all is well with her today and everything goes smoothly at your vet appointment. Please keep us updated ok?  :heart:

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Re: What the hell is that?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 05:32:42 PM »
Ahh I had something like that happen to me back when I was 15.  Except I think I may have just handled a big boa too quickly after a big meal.  And then suddenly, BLAM!  Puked this brown bile all over me.  And it smelled HORRID.  No regurgitation, just puke.  Horrible experience haha.

But I hope your snake gets better!!!!  Good luck!
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