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What about Micro-chipping?
« on: June 13, 2009, 04:19:20 PM »
Okay...

As far as i'm concerned... the situation with the burms in FLA has already happened, and there isn't much we can do about it now...

But what if we passed some sort of legislation requiring everyone to get a license for their snakes (kind of like how dog's must have license's)... as well as requiring each snake to be microchipped.

in that case, if a snake *did* manage to escape, or was released into the wild...it could be tracked back to the owner & that person could be dealt with accordingly...

the prospect of having my right to own big snakes is disheartening and down right scary.

what will happen to all of our beloved pythons & boas? 

i think the microchipping could be helpful.... has it been discussed at all?

what do you guys think?
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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 04:21:35 PM »
that would be very beneficial, unfortunately the government doesn't seem to want to work with us. I would be more than willing to have my animals chipped and registered. But it could get pretty expensive when hatching out 30-40 eggs.
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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2009, 06:12:04 PM »
Agreed that it would be expensive to chip the snakes...

but in turn, the prices would go up.... unfortunate & unpleasant, yes....but if it would save our hobby....i'd be willing to pay extra for my snakes...

the whole situation sucks...

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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2009, 11:13:20 AM »
Certain states actually do require permits... Florida is very strict, requiring permits and microchips, and apparently requires you to be able to jump through hoops of fire, as well. Tom Crutchfield is always talking about it.

I microchipped both of my Burms, just to be that "good keeper," considering all the pressure they are having lately, and I live in NJ. It may be unnecessary, but little things like that could mean the difference of what eyes are on me and what eyes aren't when more laws start coming down in our area. I also microchipped 2 of my adult female ball pythons: my Albino Female being one of them, since she is on a breeding loan with a friend, just in case.

If law required it, I'm with you SYF, I would have no problem putting in the extra cash to microchip all of my snakes. It would be really hard to regulate however, since you really shouldn't (and physically can't) microchip smaller snakes and baby snakes before they're a certain size. Considering a lot of snake sales happen when they're hatchlings, I would imagine the only thing you could do is to have to be fines and stuff for getting caught having a snake that wasn't microchipped by a certain age, etc.

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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 12:32:33 PM »
Yeah , we already have the laws in effect here.I had to file like 12 pages of paperwork for my ROC permit,and it only allows to keep for personal use and exhibit for educatonal and ifo purposes.I had to file more paperwork for my Class III permit to be able to sell my babies when my eggs hatch.I have chips in all of mine even my Boas even though they aren't required.If you get a snake that you don't intend to keep you dont have to chip it,so hatchlings are exempt.Your personal collection isn't required to be chipped until they are 2"in diameter.I am required though to build enclosures that meet certain standards all have to have a keyed locking devices unless they are in a locked room. Plus all  my enclosures have to be labeled with common as well as scientific names. I have to keep a disaster response plan and facility layout with locations of all enclosures and handling and escape tools on site. I also have to file in writing every time I sell one/ buy one/ one dies etc. anytime my inventory changes and if one goes to someone in FL I have to verify their ROC license and keep info for a year, as well as file inventory every year when I renew.I think this does a decent job at keeping people out who aren't serious about keeping these guys....but what a PIA!  :lolsign:
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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2009, 01:19:32 PM »
I haven't microchipped my dogs and I'd prefer not to do it to my snakes either.  What's next.....microchipping our kids??  Technology has its good sides, but IMO that is going too far.  I refuse to chip ANY of my kids. 

Now, I've heard it all before, especially about the dogs.  What if they run off?  What if someone takes them?  What if they get hit by a car and are lying in the road somewhere? 

These are all scary ideas, yes.  What is even scarier is the fact that if we all give in to chipping our animals, we may be next.  I, for one, don't want a microchip implanted in my body and won't put any of my pets or children (one and the same) through that.

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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2009, 01:29:20 PM »
I thought it was a good idea mostly for theft prevention, and it has proven itself in one case already, but now it's required by law.I am subject to inspection by FWC with only 24 hrs notice so if I can't show proof it gets real expensive for me real fast, IF they don't decide to confiscate my animals. Comm uh I mean democracy at it's finest right??  :funsign:
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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2009, 09:18:01 PM »
I haven't microchipped my dogs and I'd prefer not to do it to my snakes either.  What's next.....microchipping our kids??  Technology has its good sides, but IMO that is going too far.  I refuse to chip ANY of my kids. 

Now, I've heard it all before, especially about the dogs.  What if they run off?  What if someone takes them?  What if they get hit by a car and are lying in the road somewhere? 

These are all scary ideas, yes.  What is even scarier is the fact that if we all give in to chipping our animals, we may be next.  I, for one, don't want a microchip implanted in my body and won't put any of my pets or children (one and the same) through that.

Just my $.02
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You would be surprised how many ways a microchip is useful in dogs/cats in a veterinary setting.
You'd be even more surprised how many cats/dogs lives have been saved because of them.
There's a lot more to them than you think.


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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2009, 11:24:56 PM »
I haven't microchipped my dogs and I'd prefer not to do it to my snakes either.  What's next.....microchipping our kids??  Technology has its good sides, but IMO that is going too far.  I refuse to chip ANY of my kids. 

Now, I've heard it all before, especially about the dogs.  What if they run off?  What if someone takes them?  What if they get hit by a car and are lying in the road somewhere? 

These are all scary ideas, yes.  What is even scarier is the fact that if we all give in to chipping our animals, we may be next.  I, for one, don't want a microchip implanted in my body and won't put any of my pets or children (one and the same) through that.

Just my $.02
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I'm with you. The legitimate uses are good, but there is too much gray area that could be taken advantage of that far outweigh the positive. I will not chip my animals, not even my dog. I will not support this technology in any way.

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Re: What about Micro-chipping?
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 08:16:10 PM »
chelsea can write the book on this one since she sees it nearly every day. mircochipping children may be a little too far. since they will eventually speak and no longer require it. but pets i would agree with.