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Offline montanaherper

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wild food
« on: May 06, 2009, 05:27:07 PM »
would wild caught food mice to rabbits be safe to feed if frozen first?  :banghead:
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Re: wild food
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 05:31:40 PM »
Ahh man I wouldn't experiment ... I will say keep up to captive breed ! Definitly captive breed
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Re: wild food
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 05:38:02 PM »
Wild food is never acceptable ..ever. The risk of parasite loading your own animal ..and the risk of poisoning your own animal with a "wild prey item" that has been exposed to some type of poison. Two very serious risks.. in my opinion.

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Re: wild food
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 05:45:11 PM »
i was manly thinking rabbits i have tons of rabbits of all sizes in my back field, whats about breeding a few wild rabbits than using the offspring??
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Re: wild food
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 05:47:33 PM »
well that would hopefully eliminate the question of poisoning... but I think it'd cost you more in vet bills to make sure the animals were parasite free (cuz that kind of stuff does often pass to the offspring) than it would to get a good pair of captive bred meet rabbits. But then the upkeep on rabbits isn't that cheap or easy either...
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Re: wild food
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 06:15:08 PM »
Ahh.. I see. I still wouldn't risk it. If it weren't such a serious risk, I would have free ranging Corn and Rat snakes ..for the overrun population of mice I have in my garage and chicken coop. LOL  ..even my rooster, who loves him some fresh mouse meat, can't keep up with the ones that rob us of eggs every single day.

I'd do what Donnie suggest.. get a good pair ..or even a trio, so you're not overbreeding the one Mom... and make a few "snacks" of your own. Freeze 'em.. feed off the parents or maintain them for awhile ..to breed them again, at a later date ..and repeat the process, as needed. It's what I do for my rats ..and my 9, soon to be 11, snakes.

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Re: wild food
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2009, 09:22:47 AM »
Bro, Rabbits and Rats are work. If you have the space and time then i say go for it but be prepared to spend as much time a day with them as you do with your snakes. I am currently maintaining 6 rabbits and 18 rats. I am always feeding watering and cleaning someone. But unless I want to pay over a $100 dollars in shipping every couple of weeks it's what i have to do. Good Luck if you do decide to breed your own rabbits. I would recommend a trio of either "californians" or "new zealands" they are very hearty breeds, grow quick, and get upto around 8-10lbs. but don't get to the size that is achieved by flemish giants and require a lot less of a cage. If you have any questions on raising your own rabbits feel free to shoot me a PM and I am more than happy to help you out.

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Re: wild food
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2009, 09:04:41 PM »
I can imagine the temptation to get those rabbits to feed your snake must be pretty strong.  I know I've been tempted to let the boa snap up one of the birds that was on the ground pestering her.  Between them and all the friggin' squirrels, you'd think I'd be able to feed my animal for life.  But, I'd have to agree with the others.  No sense in feeding off an rabbit that may(and most likely will)have some type of internal parasite or something that could compromise your pet's health.
Personally, I think the other birds would be happier if the snake ate some of them...they wouldn't be so crowded back here :innocent9:
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Re: wild food
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2009, 10:43:32 AM »
Actually after a while of breeding our own rodents we have become very particular about the rodents we feed our snakes.  We have had times, when we where a little low and would go to a reptile show, pass up most of the discounted rodents people were selling as they just didn't look as clean and healthy looking as the ones we were breeding.  Now that we on occasion over produce a fellow herper that is local comes buy and takes our excess.  Maybe he is just floating our boat, but he says he likes our live rodents as they tend to be plumper, more easily handled, and have clean coats of fur than his normal supplier.
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Re: wild food
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2009, 07:06:56 PM »
the only time i use wc prey items is if the animal i am feeding it to is accustomed to wc prey because it is wild itself. frankly woodrats (which are what we have in the us) an feild mice, smell diffrently then captive bred so  manyt imes it is eaiser with a wc animal to get them to start eatig wc prey then  slowly move them onto captive prey.
Wc prey  that has been froen can be used for scenting in some cases. Viperkeeper  keeps a wc bullfrog that wa skille don the road for scenting his pinks an what not for his hots that prefer  amphibians etc.
but as far as  say cathing a rbabit or rat thats wild an feeding it to a captive raised animal... nah.. no point.
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